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	<title>Comments on: GeoData Format wars: GML vs KML vs ?</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://blog.geoiq.com/2006/11/20/geodata-format-wars-gml-vs-kml-vs/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 23:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, we&#039; ve been working with the GML Simple Features profile for almost two years now and have found that it&#039;s a pretty good replacement for many existing geodata formats.

But we work with all the formats listed above, so I don&#039;t have to choose ;)

Regards,
Jeff

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, we&#8217; ve been working with the GML Simple Features profile for almost two years now and have found that it&#8217;s a pretty good replacement for many existing geodata formats.</p>
<p>But we work with all the formats listed above, so I don&#8217;t have to choose <img src='http://blog.geoiq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Jeff</p>
<p><a href="http://www.carbontools.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.carbontools.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: mookie</title>
		<link>http://blog.geoiq.com/2006/11/20/geodata-format-wars-gml-vs-kml-vs/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>mookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok whatever here&#039;s the site: http://ogr.maptools.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok whatever here&#8217;s the site: <a href="http://ogr.maptools.org/" rel="nofollow">http://ogr.maptools.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: mookie</title>
		<link>http://blog.geoiq.com/2006/11/20/geodata-format-wars-gml-vs-kml-vs/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>mookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It ate my xml so...




... schema specific xml that includes a gml fragment ...
( -- for ogr:

       ... gml fragment ...
      attribute_value

)



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It ate my xml so&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; schema specific xml that includes a gml fragment &#8230;<br />
( &#8212; for ogr:</p>
<p>       &#8230; gml fragment &#8230;<br />
      attribute_value</p>
<p>)</p>
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		<title>By: mookie</title>
		<link>http://blog.geoiq.com/2006/11/20/geodata-format-wars-gml-vs-kml-vs/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>mookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok so I haven&#039;t read all 600 or so pages of the GML specification but...

I think that the issue we&#039;re dealing with stems from the fact that GML doesn&#039;t actually compete with shapefiles, or KML.  GML describes the geometries themselves while KML describes how to display them.  Shapefiles describe, geometries and their attributes.

We really need a standard XML replacement for shapefiles, and that isn&#039;t what GML is.  GML provides a standard way of including geographic data in your own schemas, nothing more.  Therefore the comment &quot;we support GML&quot; is pretty much meaningless.

ogr and topp brands of gml look something like this:




... schema specific xml that includes a gml fragment ...
( -- for ogr:

       ... gml fragment ...
      attribute_value

)



this is also the same response you get from a wfs getFeature request.

since it already exists and provides free and open software, id say embrace the ogr spec, and try and pressure ogc to include it as a standard way of transporting GIS data.

~mookie
(btw I am an F1er as well, I dont actually enjoy reading OGC specs in my spare time)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok so I haven&#8217;t read all 600 or so pages of the GML specification but&#8230;</p>
<p>I think that the issue we&#8217;re dealing with stems from the fact that GML doesn&#8217;t actually compete with shapefiles, or KML.  GML describes the geometries themselves while KML describes how to display them.  Shapefiles describe, geometries and their attributes.</p>
<p>We really need a standard XML replacement for shapefiles, and that isn&#8217;t what GML is.  GML provides a standard way of including geographic data in your own schemas, nothing more.  Therefore the comment &#8220;we support GML&#8221; is pretty much meaningless.</p>
<p>ogr and topp brands of gml look something like this:</p>
<p>&#8230; schema specific xml that includes a gml fragment &#8230;<br />
( &#8212; for ogr:</p>
<p>       &#8230; gml fragment &#8230;<br />
      attribute_value</p>
<p>)</p>
<p>this is also the same response you get from a wfs getFeature request.</p>
<p>since it already exists and provides free and open software, id say embrace the ogr spec, and try and pressure ogc to include it as a standard way of transporting GIS data.</p>
<p>~mookie<br />
(btw I am an F1er as well, I dont actually enjoy reading OGC specs in my spare time)</p>
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