GeoWeb Metadata Follow Up
First off want to thanks the folk that commented on the last post. Lots of useful feedback and it also highlighted a bit of confusion I created with the first post. The purpose of the first post was not a proposal to create a new metadata standard. Instead it was simply a proposal of how we could map the metadata we collect in GeoCommons to existing standards.
From that standpoint the proposal is for an implementation not a standard. We have just about 5,000 unique datasets and about 70,000 data layers, and it would be great to expose useful metadata for the data. The data covers the gambit, from EPA toxic release sites to the number of Facebook users by city. The system and metadata requirements needs to be flexible enough to accommodate both a user uploading Facebook data and one uploading EPA data.
While GIS users might not be intimidated by a metadata form with 75 or even 335 elements your average Web/GeoWeb user definitely will be. The goal with GeoCommons is to provide a destination where both communities can consume and share data, and I think both communities will find tools and data that are useful.
In regard to the metadata elements we proposed to map to in the last post, we were looking for those that both technical and non-technical users would understand, and also automatically trap as many additional elements as possible. To cover technical users, that have a full compliment of metadata, the plan is to have an element where you can you can provide a link to a full metadata specification.
The comments directing us to the ISO 19115 standard were very useful and we are looking to see what elements we are missing to map to that standard as we evolve. The thing we want to make sure we get right is finding to best set of metadata elements to request from users. Balancing the fact that if we have a huge number of elements, most people are going to go running for the hills.
Right now it looks like we’ll have 17-20 elements that will map to Dublin Core, FGDC, and in a next release ISO 19115. So, for each data set in Geocommons you’ll have a page that lists those 17-20 elements in the metadata format technical folks are used to seeing. This should also provide a means by which to explore federating the data with other applications and search approaches.
The goal here is to create a bridge between content being created for the GeoWeb and content created for the GIS world and make both usable and remixable by the web community as a whole. I fully respect the motivations and requirements for the GIS metadata specifications out there, and I hope we can leverage them to create an implementation that will see a high level of adoption.
Without adoption standards are pretty hollow as we’ve seen with all the work that went into GML versus the much lighter specifications for KML and GeoRSS. While both have their place it is clear what the market is supporting. As more geospatial data is created outside of the government we are not going to have the government mandate to force metadata creation and what the market accepts is going to become increasing critical – IMHO. Look forward to getting more feedback as we get ready to launch.
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So the plan is to use the metadata as a single monolithic document that you put in front of users whenever they ask any question about the data–that’s why you need to trim down?
I like to think of the metadata as a place to store information that you might show users bit by bit. No GIS does what I want yet, but it would be really easy for them to do it: if I use the GIS to point at a feature and query its attributes, usually the GIS is smart enough to tell me what the attribute labels are. But no GIS is smart enough to tell me what those labels mean. Enter the metadata. If the GIS simply looked in the metadata for the Attribute section whose Attribute_Label matched the one I’m asking about, then the answer to “what does this mean” can be pulled directly from Attribute_Definition. That’s a very small amount of information, but it’s exactly what I need at that moment in time–far better than showing me even a shortened “full” metadata record.
So let your imagination wander a bit. Think about what points in the user’s activities might prompt him or her to wonder about some aspect of the data. Then ask whether this information could be shown to the user at that time.
I know this isn’t easy, because it also requires that you somehow let the user know that the question can be asked. People sometimes put little question marks on web pages for that, or allow a right-button click of the mouse to bring up a context menu, where there might be an “About” option.
So there are two design issues, one to let users know they can ask for more info, and a second one in how to find, get, and show that info to the user.
If this kind of thing were implemented, people would want to put more information into the metadata, because they would see immediately how it benefited the user.
Thanks Peter – all good points and useful when all the data has an existing corpus of well featured metadata.
The issue for us is less about what we expose to the user and more about what we require from the user. It is fundamentally a different model from traditional GIS where it is a one street of the GIS professional making data available to the user. Here we want the user to also contribute data, but we want also want to be able to place a pedigree on that data so other users know from whence it came. Some GIS folks see this as heresy and folks like Goodchils have called it volunteered geographic information, but fact is there is a lot of it. This proposed implementation looks at a lightweight way to add metadata to this information and provide some of the benefits that accrues.